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Ep230: How to Work From Home as a Nurse (interview with Carrie Madormo RN MPH)

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You don’t HAVE to work in a hospital as a nurse . . . did you know that?!?

There comes a time in many (most) nurses careers that they start to think, “maybe I don’t want to work at the bedside anymore”. And they start searching the internet for work from home nursing jobs to no avail.

The problem is, they have no idea WHAT else they can do besides bedside nursing.  They don’t want to teach, they don’t want to be an NP, they don’t want to be a CRNA, they love being a nurse . . . now what???

Today, I interview Carrie Madormo with HealthyWAHM.com.  Carrie has been a nurse for over a decade.  For the past year, she has been working entirely from home as a medical writer.  Recently, she has started teaching nurses how to move away from the bedside and start a career as a medical writer.

Carrie provides a step-by-step worksheet to help you begin the transition if this is something you are interested in.  You can download it here: CLICK HERE.

p.s. Carrie is such a positive person.  I really enjoyed talking with her. I know you’ll be able to feel her passion and energy.


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NRSNG Podcast, episode number 230. What’s going on today? I am talking with Carrie Madormo, who is a nurse and a medical writer. Recently she’s been able to quit her bedside job and is now working as a medical writer full-time. She’s also created resources out there to help nurses and mom’s learn how to work from home and really make a living doing that. This is a really cool episode. It’s going to kind of introduce you to an avenue in nursing that a lot of people don’t realize is there, or don’t realize it can actually make a reliable income.

I’m excited for this episode. Make sure you listen to that. Carrie also mentions a couple different cheat sheets and things that she has on her website if you’re interested in pursuing this path in nursing. Hey, and if you guys aren’t on our Friday Freebie Email List, make sure you had to NRSNG.com/freebies. NRSNG.com/freebies. Every Friday we mail you out a free PDF download that you can have and you can use on the floor. Welcome to the show today guys, today I’m here with Carrie Madormo, who is a nurse, a health writer, and she also has a service where she’s helping mom’s and nurses learn how to start working from home, and that it’s actually possible, so thanks for coming on, Carrie.

Carrie Mosamo:                Thank you for having me.

Jon Haws:                            You bet. We actually connected probably a month and a half ago or so and then we weren’t able to record when we wanted to because both of us work from home.

Carrie Mosamo:                Because we work from home with kids.

Jon Haws:                            Exactly and realized we, we had scheduled our chat for Martin Luther King Day and the kids, both our kids were running around crazy so it’s like a blessing and a curse to work at home sometimes I think.

Carrie Mosamo:                Exactly. You’re always trying to find the balance.

Jon Haws:                            Exactly, so tell us just a little bit about your career path. Maybe going into nursing and then where you are today.

Carrie Mosamo:                Sure. Sure. I have been a nurse for about 10 years, and always worked in pediatrics. I started in pediatric oncology and then moved to more outpatient role, and have my masters in public health so after that started doing more travel health. About four years ago when I became a mom, decided to totally take a left turn and that I realized I wanted to be home. I always thought I would work outside the home full-time, but after doing work and daycare and grad school I just wanted to find a way to schedule my work around my life as opposed to the other way around. I just started Googling ways that nurses can work from home and landed on medical writing, and just really threw all my efforts into that. It’s been about four years now, and I’ve built it up to where last month I was able, or last year I was able to leave my nursing job since the writing income has more than replaced that.

Jon Haws:                            That’s really cool and I think, I mean, talk, maybe about that. Are you, you’ve been working on it for a couple years now.

Carrie Mosamo:                Yeah.

Jon Haws:                            You got that very first paycheck from the medical writing gig, do you remember what that paid or what that felt like?

Carrie Mosamo:                Yeah, so I think it was probably, I think my first article was like $25, and I was thrilled with that, just because it showed me that it was possible. After that you can kind of build up from there. I started out when I had no experience, no editor will hire you without samples.

Jon Haws:                            Sure.

Carrie Mosamo:                I had started a blog to have samples and then I also volunteered my services to a local charity, which I think was just like the best way to get started. I was helping this charity, I learned how to write grants, how to write copy, you know they kind of taught me as I went. Then, all of the sudden I had these published samples on this very legitimate website and that helped me kind of offer my services for pay after that.

Jon Haws:                            That’s cool, I mean, you started your first paycheck was less than you would have made in an hour of nursing.

Carrie Mosamo:                Yes.

Jon Haws:                            Right?

Carrie Mosamo:                Yes, it was like, and it took me so long to get to that point. I was thinking, “I could have just picked up an extra day at the hospital and made so much more.”

Jon Haws:                            Yeah. I think a lot of nurses I work with and you as well, probably, they all want ways to make extra cash.

Carrie Mosamo:                Yes.

Jon Haws:                            Or maybe they’re they get a little tired of the floor and they want to cut back, but you know a lot of people would see that $25 and say exactly what you and I just said, “Well, I could have just worked an hour and made way more than this.”

Carrie Mosamo:                Yes.

Jon Haws:                            What helped you see that, okay, there’s a way to build from here?

Carrie Mosamo:                I think I’ve always been good at envisioning the future. I know exactly, I’m more of a big picture person. I know exactly where I want to go, but the little day-to-day details are more challenging for me, so I always had a very clear picture of waking up when it’s snowing outside and just being able to sit with my hot coffee and write from home and not be doing the crazy daycare morning thing. I definitely had a strong drive to get there. I found that the more, every time I took a step forward the next step would present itself to me. I think as you move forward you don’t know until you try. I could have Googled this forever but if I just put myself out there a little bit then I would meet someone who could help me get to the next level. It was just taking one step forward every day. It kind of started to snowball.

Jon Haws:                            For sure, and at the time you started doing this was your spouse supportive? Or?

Carrie Mosamo:                He was. I mean he, we had a new baby. I was in grad school, and I was working. We had a lot going on and so he really picked up the slack where he was doing pretty much all of the cooking and everything like that. He definitely did not, my husband’s a physical therapist, he didn’t see my vision. He just didn’t understand, how could you ever work from home? You’re a nurse? But he always believed in me. I think even though he didn’t totally get it he was just like, “All right. If you think this is going to work, let’s try it.” Now he’s writing himself, because he sees how.

Jon Haws:                            Oh, right, right. Exactly.

Carrie Mosamo:                Yeah, how successful it is.

Jon Haws:                            That’s one thing that, because my wife works in healthcare, too, and so he understood maybe a little bit of the vision I had with NRSNG, too, and one of the great things about nursing and maybe physical therapy’s the same way, too.

Carrie Mosamo:                Yeah.

Jon Haws:                            You and I talked about this before we started the recording but I was able to go from, I did four days a week, went to three days a week.

Carrie Mosamo:                Yes.

Jon Haws:                            Went to two days every other week. Went to two days, you know, and slowly scaled back.

Carrie Mosamo:                Yes.

Jon Haws:                            To where I, there was never a point I was making less money, you know?

Carrie Mosamo:                Yes. Yes, and that was so helpful. I never had to decide before I was ready. Like, do I have to totally cut off nursing and just do this and just hustle, hustle, hustle when I’m not ready? I cut back until I was doing about three days a month before I eventually left.

Jon Haws:                            I think that’s where I was. I think I got down to two or three days a month as well.

Carrie Mosamo:                Yeah.

Jon Haws:                            You, we talked about this as well, like making that final leap of not being on the floor? It’s hard. It almost feels like you’re selling your, or giving away your child or something, because it’s nursing.

Carrie Mosamo:                Yes.

Jon Haws:                            You don’t want to give up the floor thing, but-

Carrie Mosamo:                Yes.

Jon Haws:                            At the same time, like I still, we reached so many more people this way, you know?

Carrie Mosamo:                Yes. Yes, and by the time I was ready to leave I had been a nurse for ten years which is short in terms of how long nurses stay in the field, but it’s still, ten years, you’re experienced and you’re a valuable resource on the floor, so I definitely felt kind of a pull to stay. It was hard but then on my last day almost every nurse came up to me and said, “I wish I could do that. I’ve been thinking about doing that.” I think we’re all in, going through these same struggles, and maybe not everybody says it. Or tries to do something different.

Jon Haws:                            Let’s talk about that a little bit. On your blog, “The Healthy W-A-H-M,” Healthy Work at Home Mom.com you do have a download on there that people can get for free. It’s at the very bottom of the home page, and on there you have kind of the steps, almost, that people need to take.

Carrie Mosamo:                Right.

Jon Haws:                            Talk about that and maybe give us a quick what does somebody need to do first if they’re thinking about this?

Carrie Mosamo:                Yeah. On my checklist I start a year out from when you want to be able to leave your job. I think that sounds like a long time. When I was ready to leave, I was like I can’t wait a year, but you could always be sooner, but at least start with a plan and my first tip is to just set the date. Set the date of your last day of work. I think that’s scary for people. It was for me, because immediately, it’s like, well, what if I don’t, what if I can’t at that point? That would be so heartbreaking to get to this date and then it doesn’t mean anything. I think you have to know where you’re going. When I set the date, I set it for December 16, 2016. I wrote that date everywhere. It was all over my planner. It was my password at work. Every time I’d go and I had a hard day at work I would all day long type in December 16.

Jon Haws:                            Log into the computer, yeah.

Carrie Mosamo:                Yes. I knew where I was going and so I think that kept me mindful of it and it kept me accountable. I was always reminded that I’ve got to move forward. I have to do something every day to get there.

Jon Haws:                            That’s such a great idea. It seems like you have a lot more focus, maybe, than I do. I have this big vision but focusing on that is really hard for me.

Carrie Mosamo:                Yes.

Jon Haws:                            I think your checklist will be really helpful to a lot of people. On this checklist do you give resources of where people can start with the medical writing? Or where would you suggest somebody start? What’s the first place to look for this?

Carrie Mosamo:                Yeah. I think the best place to look is just start in your own backyard. I write articles for the monthly website that our, the hospital that I worked at puts out. I think people have so many contacts but you don’t even realize it. I would start with just emailing the head of marketing at your current hospital, at any hospital you’ve ever worked as a nurse, and, then also any area hospitals. They all need writers for their website, for any marketing materials and it’s really helpful to have a nurse, because people automatically trust a nurse and like a nurse and it’s really valuable for the hospital as well. I would start with just kind of looking at your specialty and the areas where you’ve worked.

Jon Haws:                            You know what a great idea. I honestly never would have thought of that.

Carrie Mosamo:                Yeah, yeah.

Jon Haws:                            Every hospital does have a blog.

Carrie Mosamo:                I know it’s so simple.

Jon Haws:                            And someone has to write that, right?

Carrie Mosamo:                And now they all have to have Facebook pages. They’re all just trying to keep up and so if they have somebody who not only can write, but they actually know what it’s like to serve patients one-on-one and to be on the floor? That’s really valuable.

Jon Haws:                            And, you know, the vision of that hospital. You know the mission, the vision, the language.

Carrie Mosamo:                Yes. Yes.

Jon Haws:                            What a great idea.

Carrie Mosamo:                You speak their language. Great.

Jon Haws:                            You would just go up to the marketing department and be like, “Hey, I want to write a little bit here?”

Carrie Mosamo:                Yeah. I just sent an email to the, I think I looked up who it was on LinkedIn, and then found his email and sent it. A week or so later I got an email back and now that is my highest paying client.

Jon Haws:                            That is so cool. What I good idea.

Carrie Mosamo:                Yeah.

Jon Haws:                            I just never would have thought of that. On your HealthyWAHM, Healthy Work At Home Mom, as well, you do have a couple resources for people aside from that. What are some of the other resources you offer and things you can help people with?

Carrie Mosamo:                I have, I just launched a private Facebook Group. It’s kind of a support system for it. It’s targeted towards mothers but you don’t have to be a work at home mom. That’s called the Sisterhood of the Hustling Mama’s and that is for women who want to build up their home career.  I also have a couple different free downloads. I have my just like a one page, freelance writing guide about how I got started and the simple steps to take to start to get your first client.

Jon Haws:                            OK, and for these people that are maybe, because I know how it felt, once I, kind of like what you said, too, once I realized this is what I wanted to do?

Carrie Mosamo:                Yeah.

Jon Haws:                            I was kind of balancing both worlds it got harder and harder to go to work.

Carrie Mosamo:                Yes. Yes.

Jon Haws:                            What can you offer those people? What can, how can you, what encouragement can you give them?

Carrie Mosamo:                Yeah. I spent years in that kind of in between place of just being so ready to make the leap but just not quite there yet. I would say the first thing is I would get so frustrated on my way to work and think, “It’s because this hasn’t happened,” and, “My husband’s not ready, and I’m ready,” and I would just cut out all of that thinking and the accountability fell on me. I had the same amount of time in the day as a professional athlete, as Einstein, as anyone, so it’s possible and so it really has to just come down to that focus.

I used to go to work and pretend that I was a full-time writer and I was just coming in to help out that day. That’s what I would tell myself. This is how it will feel once I’m doing it. I’m just like, the pool nurse coming in to help out. I would do that and also setting my dates really made a big difference. It was such a little thing but I just like all the sudden my mindset shifted and I knew this dates coming, I’d better hurry. All of the sudden it didn’t feel so far away. It felt like I’ve got stuff to do here.

Jon Haws:                            I love that.

Carrie Mosamo:                I think the other thing was staying full engaged at work. I would still volunteer for things, make sure I made small talk with my coworkers, I just tried to be present wherever I was and not always thinking, “Oh, I don’t want to be here.”

Jon Haws:                            Absolutely, and I think that there’s so many opportunities for that at the hospital and especially like I work night shift so you get really tight with those people.

Carrie Mosamo:                Yes.

Jon Haws:                            That really helped just continue to progress in my career, because I had the goal and I wanted to be able to work from home and do this NRSNG as much as I could, but, if that didn’t pan out, hospitals are small places. You don’t want to be labeled as the lazy guy or the one who doesn’t want to work.

Carrie Mosamo:                Right.

Jon Haws:                            Or, “That one nurse. I don’t want Carrie on.” You know?

Carrie Mosamo:                Yes, yes. Or, “I have to hand off to this person.”

Jon Haws:                            Yes.

Carrie Mosamo:                Yes.

Jon Haws:                            Keep giving 100% everywhere. Do you ever follow Gary Vaynerchuk?

Carrie Mosamo:                Yes, yeah.

Jon Haws:                            OK, yeah. A lot of what you’re saying makes me think of a lot of what he says, you know?

Carrie Mosamo:                Oh, OK. OK, yeah, thanks.

Jon Haws:                            We all have the same amount of time in the day and what are you doing with it? I want to be nice when I say this and stuff but there would be nurses that I would work with who they’d give a med come back out, get on their phone, look at Facebook, you know?

Carrie Mosamo:                Yes, yes. Yeah.

Jon Haws:                            Whereas the other side of it, I would have my ICU book open. I’d be studying. I’d be reading.

Carrie Mosamo:                Yeah.

Jon Haws:                            Essentially I was getting paid to take my CCRN, you know?

Carrie Mosamo:                Yes. Yes.

Jon Haws:                            We all had the same amount of time, and I think resources like your blog will give people that tool to be able to use their time more efficiently. You know?

Carrie Mosamo:                Yeah, yeah. I also think in the beginning I just wasted a lot of time doubting myself or that this was even an attainable goal. I didn’t know any entrepreneurs. I didn’t know any nurses who worked from home. I would make a little progress and then almost self-sabotage just thinking, “I don’t know if this is going to work.” I would wish, I hope that this blog kind of saves people all of that wasted time, because it is so possible and the more, the further I get, the more people I meet who are doing a huge range of things I never even knew were out there when I was working full-time. I hope that that is the biggest outcome of the blog is that just saving so much time of that self-doubt time in the beginning.

Jon Haws:                            No, that’s awesome. I loved it. I love that you’re doing this and I love that you’re reaching out to so many people, because and especially in the nursing arena there’s so many people with so much experience and varied experience that there’s a lot that needs to be taught and there’s so much you can do with this.

Carrie Mosamo:                Yes, yes. Yes. I love that nursing is just a springboard. You could truly go anywhere with this knowledge.

Jon Haws:                            Absolutely.

Carrie Mosamo:                That you’ve built up.

Jon Haws:                            I wanted to ask you what has writing and putting all of this knowledge in your head into words what has that, has that taught you anything about patient education and patient communication?

Carrie Mosamo:                Yeah. I think having the nursing background definitely helps me in the writing department. Thinking how would I talk to a patient when I’m writing? Then the other way around it just reminds me of how much information is thrown at patients in their visits and then how often they go home and Google it, and so that’s kind of where they might come across what I’ve written. I am really mindful of trying to stay friendly and engaging while introducing these kind of advanced topics or complicated conditions and things like that. It’s just kind of like a constant balancing act. I was thinking about it when I just took my son to the dermatologist and it was just for eczema.

The doctor mentioned, “He does not have this. I know it’s not this.” But we had to think about tuberous sclerosis. Immediately that is in my brain, that’s all I’m thinking about. That’s all I’m Googling even though the doctor said that’s not it. I know that that’s how people think and your health is like one of the most important parts of your life. I really take that seriously when I’m writing and try to kind of alleviate some of that stress.

Jon Haws:                            I love that, yeah, and I love that because you really do have that kind of responsibility I guess as a social media nurse?

Carrie Mosamo:                Yes.

Jon Haws:                            Or a blogging nurse is someone somewhere is going to find what you wrote, and what are they going to take away from that, you know?

Carrie Mosamo:                Yeah. I was just writing for an online magazine and they assigned me the article, “The Untold Truth of Vaccines.” I was like, “Oh, god.”

Jon Haws:                            Thanks.

Carrie Mosamo:                I had to write all these unknown truths, or secrets of vaccines and my secrets were like, “They save lives.” They do actually.

Jon Haws:                            Get them.

Carrie Mosamo:                Get the vaccines that are still around. It’s like this balance of engaging topics that people will click on?

Jon Haws:                            Sure.

Carrie Mosamo:                But totally rooted in science and safety.

Jon Haws:                            I’m glad that a nurse got that topic, though. That’s good.

Carrie Mosamo:                I know. I know.

Jon Haws:                            I want to ask you, too. You mentioned your career was in pediatric oncology?

Carrie Mosamo:                Yeah.

Jon Haws:                            That, to me that, so I was actually just having this conversation with I don’t remember who it was with, it was with one of the guys that works with us. I was like, “Ped’s would be really hard for me because I had kids. It’s too close to home.” He’s like, “Oncology.” I’m like, “Oh, yeah, pediatric oncology would be the worst.”

Carrie Mosamo:                Yes.

Jon Haws:                            How, I mean I don’t even know what my question is but how did you separate enough to be able to come home, be with your kids and not be terrified all the time?

Carrie Mosamo:                Yeah. I actually did that right out of college so I wasn’t a mom yet. I don’t know how the parents, the nurses who are parents did it. I don’t, if I had to do it all over again, I would have gone to a more general floor first. I think as a new nurse you’re just working on basic skills and then on top of that I had these huge boundary issues to figure out, because these families are there every day for maybe a year.

Jon Haws:                            Yeah.

Carrie Mosamo:                You are so close. To try to separate that was really hard. I eventually had to leave because of that. I went to an outpatient clinic just to get a break and get my bearings again, because it was so hard not to. I felt like I either had to be totally in it with the families, and feel like so much suffering or I felt like I was being cold if I was protecting myself. It’s such a delicate balance. The nurses who do that forever I have so much respect for.

Jon Haws:                            That’s, like the pediatric and the oncologic nurses I met, are, generally, it seems to me they’re people that do it for decades you know?

Carrie Mosamo:                Yes, yes.

Jon Haws:                            And they just love it. I that was the hardest thing for me on the floor was that separation. It was just, it got really really hard for me, because I work neuro ICU and so you see …

Carrie Mosamo:                Oh, yeah.

Jon Haws:                            This traumatic death and stuff all the time, and it got really, really hard for me because you really start to care about a lot of these families and I think that’s good, but I had a hard time drawing that line.

Carrie Mosamo:                Yes, that’s why you go into it.

Jon Haws:                            You know?

Carrie Mosamo:                Yes, I just wanted to, especially once I become a mom I wanted to know that I could come home from work and not be totally drained and just like, I needed somewhere where I still had something to give when I got home.

Jon Haws:                            Exactly, and I think a lot of people do talk about the physical strain in nursing.

Carrie Mosamo:                Yeah.

Jon Haws:                            There’s a real, there’s a real emotional drain in nursing and I think it does, it got to the point where it’s like, man I just I don’t know. I don’t even know anymore about anything.

Carrie Mosamo:                Yes. Yeah, and there’s like those studies about compassion fatigue?

Jon Haws:                            Yes.

Carrie Mosamo:                And the symptoms are serious, physical symptoms that you can develop just from this stress on you all the time.

Jon Haws:                            I was actually just did, I just had an interview with Ashley Poffet, who, she’s a blogging nurse who talks about falling back in love with nursing and that’s kind of what she talks about is a lot of this compassion fatigue.

Carrie Mosamo:                Yeah.

Jon Haws:                            It brought me back to one of my first podcast episodes where I’d talked about compassion fatigue. It was right after a really terrible shift.

Carrie Mosamo:                OK.

Jon Haws:                            I mean it shows that you care but man, it really is hard.

Carrie Mosamo:                Yeah, yeah, and it’s like how can you protect yourselves?

Jon Haws:                            Yes.

Carrie Mosamo:                First of all? Because that’s what will allow you to serve the patients the best, but it doesn’t always feel like that right in the moment.

Jon Haws:                            Yes. I totally agree. I’m really excited about what you’re doing, and I’m really excited that you’re bringing all this knowledge that you have to people. I can tell from your blog, from your passion that you know what you’re doing and you clearly have a lot of passion for and a lot of drive to help other nurses and other people get to here.

Carrie Mosamo:                Yeah.

Jon Haws:                            What else would you want to share with people what’s the advice? Where do you want people to find you online, etc.?

Carrie Mosamo:                Yeah. I would say to definitely, if you’re interested in starting to work from home, growing a home business to come check out my blogs that’s healthy W-A-H-M.com The Healthy Work At Home Mom. And, really, my strongest message is just to know that this is possible. Even if you are starting at zero right now life could look very different in a year. The best thing to do is just to take one step forward today. Send one email. Look up medical writing, just one little action step every day snowballs. It’s unbelievable how fast it can happen.

Jon Haws:                            Awesome, and I just wanted one last question real quick as you said that.

Carrie Mosamo:                Yeah.

Jon Haws:                            Do you remember how it felt sending that first email? Were you scared? How was that?

Carrie Mosamo:                Yes. I just had a definite, I guess like imposter syndrome?

Jon Haws:                            Yes.

Carrie Mosamo:                Because I felt like I had no idea what I’m doing. Why would anyone hire me? I think I had to start believing in myself, which is, sounds a little corny. You know I think, we as nurses have such a knowledge base that we just take for granted, because you kind of need it everyday and you don’t think about how much more you know than when you were that nursing student. It’s important to realize that even if you don’t have any writing background you have such valuable experience, and that’s worth so much more than a journalism degree, because you will bring this to your writing, to your education, and it’s things you don’t even realize you’re doing, but it’s valuable.

Jon Haws:                            Totally agree. 100%.

Carrie Mosamo:                Yeah.

Jon Haws:                            Love it all. Thank you very much for coming on.

Carrie Mosamo:                Oh, you’re welcome.

Jon Haws:                            Yeah, you bet. Make sure, check out her blog. Check out you have a Facebook group as well.

Carrie Mosamo:                Yes.

Jon Haws:                            Get involved. Start doing something small, that first $25 is the hardest and then you go from there.

Carrie Mosamo:                Yes, exactly.

Jon Haws:                            I really hope you guys enjoyed that episode with Carrie. I think it’s going to help a lot of you realize there’s some different avenues in nursing that you might not have realized existed before. It might open up your mind to some of the opportunities there are in nursing. I hope you enjoyed that. I hope it opens your avenues and opens your mind to what’s really out there. Carrie and I had, we chatted a lot before the episode and we chatted a lot after and we talked about mindset. You know, mindset is really what gets us where we want to go or inhibits us from getting where we need to go. I just really want to invite you guys to really think about your mindset. Make sure you’re not inhibiting yourself. Make sure you’re not stopping yourself from doing want you to do.

Carrie mentioned to me a book. It’s called, “The Big Leap,” it’s a great book. It really helps you determine what your mindset is. If you guys want some extra reading, I know you don’t have any time for extra reading but if you want an extra audible book or something there’s the book, “The Big Leap,” and also the book, “Mindset,” by Carol Dweck. I talked a lot about the before but you guys, your mindset is what really matters. We all can achieve so much in life, but the problem is we hold ourselves back so much.

I don’t want that for me. I don’t want that for our NRSNG community. I don’t want you guys to be your biggest enemies. All right? We’re all in this together, and we all need to build each other up, but most of all, we need to build ourselves up. All right, guys? We love you. We care about you. Thank you so much for being here. OK? Our goal is to give you the tools and the confidence that you need to succeed in nursing school, on the [inaudible 00:25:51] and in your life as a nurse. All right, with all that said, guys, you know what time it is now. It’s time to go out and be your best self today. Happy nursing.

Date Published - Feb 20, 2017
Date Modified - Apr 17, 2019

Jon Haws RN

Written by Jon Haws RN

Jon Haws RN began his nursing career at a Level I Trauma ICU in DFW working as a code team nurse, charge nurse, and preceptor. Frustrated with the nursing education process, Jon started NRSNG in 2014 with a desire to provide tools and confidence to nursing students around the globe. When he's not busting out content for NRSNG, Jon enjoys spending time with his two kids and wife.


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    Vicky Warren

    I love the part about “how much information is thrown at patients”… I never really thought about it much until I was a patient, very sleepy from the medication and being told many instructions all at once. That is a really good thing to keep in mind when writing in the medical realm! Great podcast!

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    Katie Bivona

    Loved this podcast! Helped me to refocus on writing more on my blog and to remember the ‘bigger’ picture!